Discussing AltLeft Chaos Magic on The Stark Truth

Robert Stark and co-host Sam Kevorkian talk to Brandon Adamson. Brandon blogs at AltLeft.com, is the author of Beatnik Fascism, and has a Youtube channel, Self Checkout.

The entire podcast can be found here.

Topics:

-Brandon’s Official Response to Trump’s Remarks on the AltLeft
-The context of Trump using the term “Alt-Left” to describe the antifa as opposed to the original Alt Left
-The media’s references to Brandon’s Alt Left site and how the only semi accurate one was The Week’s article (since the time when this podcast was recorded there was another accurate article which appeared in Salon)
-Confusing political news junkies with esoteric and outlandish cultural references
-The “Orange Pill”
-How the less aggro elements of the Left and the Alt-Right should combine forces for single payer health care, student debt relief, and the dismantling the College Football Industrial Complex
-How massive online censorship is forcing people to build an alternative tech universe
-Corporations enforcing a uniform culture of consensus among workers
-Companies policing employees behavior outside of work
-Why a 6 hour work day would be more efficient
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The Outer Limits of an Ideological Future

“See, it’s always the same. Clouseau is sitting there, in a chair, just like you, with his back to me. Then suddenly, my hands go round his throat, and I begin to squeeze. It’s wonderful. It’s marvelous. I’m squeezing. And the more I squeeze, the freer I feel. I’m in ecstasy. And then suddenly, suddenly my problem is solv-ved.” -Inspector Dreyfus

My old friend Millennial Woes has been cranking out a lot of thought provoking content as of late. One thing I like about his videos is that he tends to leave them somewhat open ended, often hinting at a conclusion but leaving it for the audience to ponder. One of his recent videos, titled “Signs of An Ideological Future” he talks about how we’re reaching (or have reached) a stage when many people are no longer interested in debating or even hearing from people that have views which don’t conform to their in-group orthodoxy opinions (even if the debate comes from someone within their own movement, and whose involvement in said movement predates their own by many years.) I’ll come back to this later. Near the end of the video, Woes floats the possibility that for those on the left that hate SJWs, there may be no alternative for them but to join the AltRight. A year or two ago I might have agreed with this likelihood but not now. I’m not sure what form they will take, but alternatives inevitably will emerge when push comes to shove. Why do I think this? Another of Millennial Woes videos offers a partial clue.

To put it mildly, there are too many crazy and retarded people in the AltRight itself. I’m not talking about people with “extreme beliefs” (or whatever.) I recognize the importance of desensitizing people to social taboos through trolling, irony and shock humor, and I operate on the principal that anything should be up for rational (small r) discussion. I addressed this before, defending Richard Spencer during the NPI “salutegate” uproar as well as the Milo controversy. What I’m talking about now though is the issue of personalities. There are substantial numbers of vocal groups in the AltRight that are outright lunatics and an even greater number that have such insufferable personalities that one wouldn’t want to get stuck hanging out with these jugheads alone for 5 minutes at a party, let alone live in an ethnostate with them and thousands of their cohorts, even if one might agree with them ideologically on 90% of issues.

Of course I’m not talking about the primary AltRight thought leaders like Spencer, Woes, and Greg Johnson (who are frequently attacked by the same socially abrasive mobs whenever they say something interesting) or other minor figures and writers. I’ll give some examples…

This happens to Richard Spencer almost weekly where he casually spouts an opinion that deviates from the traditional right wing dogma. Instances of this include his skepticism of the “holodomor,” his arguments against local ethnonationalism in favor of a European racial superstate, his support for universal health care and his having the audacity to express even the vaguest tolerance for transgendered individuals. In many cases these contrarian type statements are simply thought experiments, but according to ideological enforcers, no exploration of ideas is allowed, no creative thinking will be tolerated. You’re not permitted to question anything in the unwritten AltRight sacred mythological canon, no matter how many holes or inaccuracies you can demonstrate in it.

In another glowing example, Tara McCarthy took a break from promoting unfounded pizzagate conspiracy theories to make a video called “The Dark Side of the AltRight.” In this video she sensibly chronicles and denounces some of the recent incidents of random violence by a few kook members of the AltRight. Scores of morons in the comments pounced on her, attacking her for daring to suggest these acts of violence were dumb and counter-productive. Note that we’re not even talking about self-defense or some kind of perhaps inevitable political violence that could conceivably lead to a declared objective. These were instances of a lunatic killing other people in “his own movement” and another was just
some drunken idiot randomly stabbing an ordinary black guy on the street. There were other incidents and stories as well, but they featured more or less the same level of nuttiness. We all understand why the media amplifies these stories and downplays black on white crime, but at the end of the day it’s not unreasonable to demand mentally coherent conduct in public from members of a movement which purports to be fighting to preserve/restore civilization.

Yet another recent instance where hordes of unhinged AltRight people freaked out was when Beardson Beardly made what I thought was a very persuasive video in which he articulated the mildest criticisms of the ultra lame “white sharia” meme. I don’t even tend to agree with half of Beardson’s opinions, but I enjoy his vids because he has a fun going, down to Earth personality and more importantly he is able to think for himself. He’s someone you could get along with. Also he likes the Beach Boys and wore a Ween shirt in one of his videos, so you can’t really go wrong there. Anyway, later in the video Beardson takes issue with the people in the AltRight who were making fun of “Aids Skrillex” for working in a grocery store. Beardson makes an appeal to empathy and argues that they should prioritize directing their energy toward more big league opponents rather than harass some random kid who made a few anti-white comments at a shitty Trump rally. Incidentally I would have asked the question, “What’s wrong with working at a grocery store?” Especially the one he supposedly works at, which appears to be an awesome heath food / farmers market type of store. Even if it wasn’t though, who cares? I though the AltRight was supposed to be on the side of the working class. Why would they be shaming someone for working a perfectly respectable job? This hypocrisy reveals many of them to be no different from normie rat race republicans, equating someone’s worth in life with how much money they make. Anyway, commenters didn’t hesitate to pile on and trash Beardson for making this video. The significance of this is that Beardson is a far right, radical traditionalist and race realist. If the AltRight rank and file are willing to go berserk and shun someone like him over a minor disagreement, then it hardly seems worth it for people who have broader cultural disagreements to bother entertaining the idea of getting involved with the AltRight.

As Greg Johnson has pointed out, “bullying only works on psychologically weak people.” Intelligent, self-confident and capable individuals don’t care if you call them “beta males” or tell them they have “too much soy in their diet.” They don’t care about being called a “cuck” (a once clever insult which had a specific racial meaning that has since been ruined by misuse.) They don’t give a shit about being called a faggot or degenerate. They will just laugh it off and conclude you and your squad are a bunch of insecure halfwits. Ultimately though, they will dismiss you and move on.

At this point you might be thinking “Yes, but if these leftists or AltLite people hate SJWs enough they will come to the AltRight anyway. They’ll be forced to.” Don’t be so sure. If someone like me (who has been writing explicitly pro-white articles for several years) can deduce that the personalities that makeup the AltRight legions are so insufferable and illogical that one could actually find themselves preferring the company of the skeptic community or even actual SJWs…then what are the odds that normal people will take the Nestea Plunge into the AltRight and stay there? By normal, I don’t mean “normies” either, just intelligent open-minded people who may be willing to give identitarian ideas a fair consideration. Indeed, many writers and thinkers that have been pushed into the AltRight over the last few years as a result of excessive anti-white hatred and political correctness, have already come and gone, having grown weary of the toxic and loony atmosphere. They reached back into the medicine cabinet for another colored pill, the first one they could find…and checked out.

It’s become clearer and clearer over time, that when many in the AltRight talk about preserving “our people,” they’re certainly not talking about White people or Europeans. They’re talking about a teeny tiny subset of Whites that embrace radical traditionalism (which traditions though?,) “White Sharia,” arranged marriages, primitivism, Little House on the Prairie living, specific types of architecture, “nofap,” weird conspiracy theories, and a host of other things bundled in, which hundreds of millions of healthy and well-adjusted White people would want absolutely nothing to do with. Yet if one expresses a different preference on any of these issues, the AltRight mall security busybodies are out in full force to shake you down.

To be successful, these movements will require a unionization of many different types of White Europeans and even non-whites who display a willingness to contribute and prove they have a role to play in these societies. The choice though, won’t simply be limited to SJWs and AltRight. Whether it’s Nazbol, transhumanism, corporate monarchism, neoliberalism, communism, anarcho capitalism, LandBrand neoreaction, chic nihilism or whatever…there will be many different options for people to gravitate to, for those that decide not to lock themselves into what’s fast becoming the equivalent of an ideological padded room.

Brandon Adamson is the author of Beatnik Fascism

Strange Bedfellows – Defending Milo

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Robert Stark, Pilleater and I discussed the recent Milo controversy on The Stark Truth. The episode is available, here.

I hate having to write an article like this. I’ve never really been a fan of Milo (and have written so quite clearly in the past.) People who prioritize or spend a lot of time obsessed with political issues relating to what depraved activities they can or can’t do sexually, have always kind of annoyed me. Really, of all the problems in our society that could require attention, that’s what you chose to devote your activism to? Your dick?

Anyway, I’m just going to go ahead and say it…

Milo never defended “pedophilia.” It’s ridiculous to suggest that he did. In the video interview in question, he’s discussing teenagers. Pedophilia applies only to prepubescent children. Whether or not someone is legally a “minor” in a particular has nothing to do with these classifications. Age of consent and what constitutes a minor vary widely among different countries. In any case, debating the subject of attraction and consent relating to post pubescent or sexually developed minors cannot be construed in any way as being the same thing as “advocating pedophilia” (which would involve a conversation about pre-pubescent minors.) That a great many people are too dumb or ignorant to comprehend such distinctions, shouldn’t be Milo’s problem.

Now, to those who would accuse me of  just “splitting hairs” or claim that I’m talking about a distinction without a difference, I can only say that words mean things. Definitions matter. Categorizing ideas accurately is a critical component of civilized discussion. I can already hear people saying “Whatever. It’s all degeneracy! You sound like pedo apologist! Blah Blah Blah.”

Well, think about this…these same individuals are the ones who often complain that people mischaracterize them as Nazis, white supremacists, when they are merely white nationalists, race realists or in some cases even civic nationalists. “Whatever you’re all nazis! Trump supporters are all nazis. Bannon is a white supremacist! If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..!”
Of course, we all know a civic nationalist is not the same thing as a white nationalist, and a white nationalist is not necessarily a white supremacist or even a biological race realist for that matter. When you claim that Milo was “defending pedophilia,” it is as ignorant and absurd as when the media labels some basic bitch republican like Paul Ryan a white supremacist. It just isn’t true. I don’t want to hear these people complaining next time they get categorized as Nazi KKK members just for advocating for a moratorium on immigration from the third world. “Like what do you mean, dude? Don’t you see how ridiculous and autistic you seem by insisting that people accurately characterize your views? What’s that? You say you’re not a white supremacist or neo Nazi? You’re just an ‘ethnonationalist?’ Haha, as if that makes your opinions any less disgusting, you Nazi apologist.”

Part of what has always attracted me to dissident politics was the willingness to honestly explore any topic relating to biology, human nature, or psychology, no matter how socially taboo. When some AltRight person says “I don’t know how anyone could defend Milo or his remarks at this point. The things he said were simply indefensible,” I have to wonder where their self awareness is. Do they not realize that the average person thinks their views and statements on race realism are just as indefensible (if not more) than Milo’s expressed opinions on age of consent? Indeed they don’t. Didn’t people say the AltRight could no longer be defended after the NPI “Roman salute” controversy? Look, if someone holds what you deem to be a disturbing opinion that runs contrary to your values, the solution is simple. You can disagree with them and state your case.

I suspect though that there are other things in play here. Milo has made a great deal of enemies and often talks a lot of shit. Therefore, people see it as an opportunity to settle old personal scores, and they salivate at the prospect of finally skewering him and getting revenge. This may be a good short term strategy, but I don’t see it playing out well long term. Anyone that unfairly has their lives ruined by the media for simply stating “weird” opinions, requires defense whether we like them or not. Though I admit Milo is easily unlikable, and I was never much of a fan of his obnoxious shtick or faux edginess, I relate to him slightly more now that he’s become genuinely ostracized and alienated like the rest of us.

BackPage’s Greatest Hits

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Well, BackPage finally relented and pulled the plug on their “adult services” section. It goes without saying that in the short term this will have a profound financial impact on the women who make their living offering these *ahem* services. I personally have no problem with prostitution other than the fact that as a hypochondriac and a germophobe I’ve never been inclined to actually visit one (the closest I think I’ve ever gotten would be getting lap dances at a strip club where the girls openly flouted some of the rules on contact.)  I guess the other issue I have with prostitution is that it’s just another annoying level of consumerism and the commoditization of absolutely everything. It has always been around though and probably always will be.

I’m not sure it’s worth paying for a lot of these women, and I don’t know enough about psychology to understand the men that do it repeatedly. In real life, most hookers don’t look like Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman and are actually pretty beat. Many of them use fake or misleading pictures and often the ones that use real pics are pretty bottom of the barrel generally (look at a few mugshots on google images to get an idea.) Some of them are genuinely pretty but tend to get some rough miles on them fairly quickly. There are undoubtedly a lot of attractive and honest female escorts mixed in among the riff raff, but for the effort required to locate a legit one without getting robbed, arrested or scammed you might as well just spend all that energy trying to find a decent girlfriend or wife.

When I moved to Hollywood in the late 90’s I noticed right away there were no hot streetwalkers or anything like in the movies. The only prostitutes seemed to be horribly unpassable trannies that sauntered around Santa Monica blvd (think Ted Wass dressed as a hooker in Curse of the Pink Panther.) My friend told me the authorities had “cleaned up” Hollywood Blvd a few years before, so I have no idea if what was previously depicted in movies was ever anything close to resembling reality.

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This is not what a typical prostitute and her client look like and was also a pretty bad movie and also forever ruined the Roy Orbison song of the same name.

Anyway, where was I going with all this? I don’t normally like writing about these kinds of subjects because it brings out the “ZOMG Degeneracy!” crowd and the prudish right. I won’t really miss BackPage, and the people that run it are the same kind of people that bitch about censorship yet have no problem with censorship when it comes to crimethink they disapprove of. One thing I will miss though, is reading the often humorous reviews of BackPage escorts. I first stumbled onto them by accident several years ago when searching for the address of a (recently converted) condo unit I was looking to buy:

Hey guys just letting everyone know that if you book a session with Pixie or any girl at 1241 e. medlock Villa Marvsa apartments that you will be getting more than you bargained for. There is a guy (calling himself T-Bone)in one of the locked bedrooms that video and audio tapes every session. He then keeps all the tape cause in case he needs to use them later[/QUOTE]

I’m a little freaked about this myself. I visited Pixy a couple of weeks ago because I wanted to see if she could actually squirt. Things did seems pretty normal during the introduction. Looking back now I can see that this could be true. She started off by making her “disclaimer” speech which I though was a little unusual, but nothing really really caught me off guard at the time. If they are recording this as a way to protect themselves from LE I could understand that but the really should disclose that info up front. If it’s for the purpose of redistributing I’m going to be up shit creek. I definately will not be back there either way.

I had no idea at the time there was an entire internet subculture of these kinds of reviews. Reading them has been an occasional source of amusement for me when I’m bored every now and then. These people have their own lingo (GFE, BBBJ, etc) which takes a bit of time to decode. They tend to refer to their encounters as dreams (ie. “I had a dream I visited Wilma in Riverside”) presumably as some kind of legal loophole to prevent them from incriminating themselves in a crime. These reviews are often explicit in the grossest ways, and some of these people are truly degenerates and completely without shame or class. Yet even among them there exists something of a code of honor in how business is conducted and people are treated.

One interesting development from BackPage shutting down it’s escort ads has been that these women are now simply placing their ads in the “women seeking men” section of the dating classifieds. Wew! So don’t be surprised if on apps like Tinder and Okcupid you start getting an influx of matches, propositions and “dates” from actual live escorts (in addition to the normal annoying bots and spam scripts that already run rampant on those sites.) Be safe out there, lads and ladies. It’s best to just avoid all this crap and find a nice stable relationship if you can…and even if you can’t, there are more productive ways you can spend your time…like reading old books or reading any book for that matter.  Heck even playing “Leisure Suit Larry 6” for a few hours would be a better use of your time. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

 

Strike a Blow Against Global Cubicle-ism!

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So I admit I’ve never been much into the donations racket, and I find it somewhat ridiculous when I see someone with a Patreon that has numerous devoted fans pledging to give like two thousand bucks per youtube video a person makes. I can understand if you’re involved in a project that requires expensive production or animation, as well as frequent travel accommodations, but if you’re just a dude that sits in front of a camera and rants for 15 minutes about subjects that won’t get you fired from any job in corporate America….demanding thousands per video seems seems kind of lame.

To quote Ray Bradbury once again:

Either you love what you’re doing, or . . . Look, I wrote for years, and I wasn’t paid. My love carried me through all those years. I sold newspapers on the street corner. When I was twenty-two, I was making ten dollars a week. When I started making twenty dollars a week from selling stories, I quit selling newspapers. You’re either in love with what you do, or you’re not in love.

I’m perfectly content with just barely scraping by if it means I get to do what I’m passionate about and be as weirdly creative as I want with the content I create. We live in an age of corporate censorship and the prospects for me ever being able to have a high profile normie job again (even if I wanted one) become incrementally bleaker by the hour. In fact, the paradox we face in dissident political and artistic communities is that the more prolific and prominent one becomes in the circles, the more isolated and ostracized they are from opportunities in the outside world. In the end, it’s simply a gamble. Can you go “all in” and still survive while being true to yourself, or do you keep your mouth shut and keep your head down, quietly collecting your direct deposit from the cubicle mafia? No offense to the actual mafia, (which I went through a phase of wanting to join after seeing Goodfellas in the 7th grade.)

Anyhow, if you have enjoyed the content on this site or any other sites and projects I have been involved with, I would appreciate a small contribution for my work. Even if you hate me and are pretty much disgusted by everything I say and do, but you still respect the spirit of free speech and are fed up with corporate busybodies enforcing ideological litmus tests of any kind on potential employees….well feel free to contribute a few bucks. Maybe someday you’ll find your opinions have run afoul of what’s publicly acceptable, and you’ll need someone to have your back. I’ll be there for you either way.

I’m not looking for thousands of dollars or anything, but it would be helpful to get my message out (or any message out) if you were to contribute at least a few dollars. I lead an incredibly minimalist lifestyle, so I don’t need much to subsist, but I do need something occasionally. I’m not even going to be that dude that’s like “you guys better start donating if you want me to keep updating this site.” I’m not even pretending to be offering you anything of significant value or some special content you absolutely can’t live without…just throw me a bone.

Ways you can contribute:

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Purchase books advertised on the site.

Fedora Nationalism

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The recent controversy over “fake news” has somewhat reminded me how much closer I am to people in the rationalist / skeptic community than some elements (not all) of the AltRight on certain issues. If not for my skepticism of the prospects (or desirability) of multiculturalism in Western countries and the long term viability of “warm body” democracy in general, I would have much more in common with people like Amazing Atheist and Shoe0nhead than I would the average AltRight person. They’re not totally aligned with me across the board, but I find them to be a breath of fresh air sometimes. In fact, I wish there were more people like them because they approach topics logically and critically. Even though they may not reach the same ideological conclusions, the atheist/rationalist personalities often help to lead people down the path of skepticism and empiricism, which can be applied to all kinds of different issues relating to identity and the framework of our society.

There’s no question that the mainstream media is liberally using the “fake news” narrative in an attempt to discredit many legitimate news and opinion outlets, some of which are predominantly opinion sites to begin with (such as Unz.com) and deal mainly with commentary and analysis rather than news reporting to begin with. That’s why the establishment media’s “definitive lists” should be viewed as skeptically as the sites in question, since the lists themselves were ideologically constructed.

That being said, I actually *do* see tons people in the AltRight (and especially Alt-Lite) fall for obviously made up news stories. They’d frequently share tons of these stories on Facebook uncritically, even when a brief examination of the site or facts uncovered after a quick Google search would easily debunk whatever wild claims were being made. It’s fine to say the media lies, but it’s clear most people aren’t even curious/critical enough to do basic checking. To make matters worse, when people share these bogus news items, they usually accompany them with some kind of preachy triumphalist rant about something finally being exposed and confirming the essence of their worldview, with a lengthy comment thread filled with people spiraling into outrage and shock at the horror of the “news” story, until finally someone about 20 comments into the frenzy says “guys, that’s a fake news site.”

The Alt-Lite has been entirely consumed with propagating utterly bonkers conspiracies like “pizzagate” without a shred of credible evidence. For an example of the sort of thing which passes for proof for these people, watch a few of these videos which have thousands of upvotes and “believer” comments but contain absolutely nothing substantive. It’s all wild speculation, most of which doesn’t hold up to common sense scrutiny. Take this video of “screams” from Comet Ping Pong, that is somehow supposed to insinuate something horrific is taking places, but chances are if you’ve ever been to a Chuck E. Cheese in your life or any place where children are playing and going buck wild…you’ll here some yelling and screaming. To a person who thinks critically, none of this stuff is interesting at all except from a psychological perspective. It is horrifying only in the sense of witnessing seemingly normal people transform into an irrational lynch mob, whipped up into a frenzy over some of the flimsiest, rinkydink evidence ever concocted. There was a whole video talking about the logos used on these websites and how they were supposedly cryptic symbols for all kinds of nefarious sexual activity and demonry, but these were mostly just generic logos with hearts, triangles etc…the kind of basic bitch, stock clipart logos that you pay someone 5 dollars to make on Fiverr if you’re too lazy to spend a few minutes online creating them yourself. This is not to say that the allegations being made by these internet sleuths are definitively false. Maybe they’ll turn out to be true (by all means, investigate!) but the evidence presented so far has been underwhelming and not particularly persuasive enough to justify ruining innocent people’s lives and harming the reputations of seemingly banal local businesses.

With people like Cernovich and Paul Joseph Watson burning bridges with AltRight, hopefully they will take some of their loony conspiracy audience with them. The same people who are so squeamish they think jokingly giving Roman salutes poisons our movement, are somehow under the impression that InfoWars has a respectable reputation among ordinary educated people. This same crowd disavows some of us for daring to have racial in-group preferences…yet they think promoting Satanic panics, UFO conspiracies, Sandy Hook conspiracies, and pseudo-scientific health quackery won’t repel useful and intelligent people from their movement.

The epidemic of “fake news” itself isn’t a remarkable issue. It’s just blackhat internet marketers trying to make a quick buck with clickbait articles that easily go viral due to their outrageous bombshell claims. The astronomical number of people who appear to be susceptible to fabricated news items and circulate them uncritically is the real story. It’s more of an argument for why most people probably aren’t mentally equipped to vote than a case for news curation. That’s why I’m in favor of “fedora nationalism” (non-MRA variety) which given the available evidence of observable human behavior, is probably more of pipe dream than Calexit, the Northwest Territorial Imperative, or even the plot of Bionic Commando.

One last note…

For crying out loud, it’s *eminent* domain, not “imminent” domain! Sorry, I have been wanting to get that off my chest for a while.